神经科学与心理学2025journals.plos.org
伴随音乐的呼吸练习诱导的意识改变状态
Altered states of consciousness induced by breathwork accompanied by music
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这篇发表于 PLOS ONE 的论文研究了由呼吸练习（breathwork）配合音乐所引发的意识改变状态。论文将 breathwork 定义为“不间歇的循环呼吸，配合逐渐富有感染力的音乐”，探讨这种练习如何诱发类似致幻剂体验的意识状态改变。
HN 关注点：HN 读者对非药物手段诱发意识改变状态（替代致幻剂体验）的方法很感兴趣，讨论焦点集中在个人亲历体验的有效性以及该领域定义模糊、难以科学评估的问题。
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这几条评论里：质疑 1 亲历 3
亲历分享用光声设备诱发类似致幻剂意识状态的亲历，并质疑脑波同步宣传的科学性
顺带一提，我以前用光声机（Mindplace Procyon）就能很轻松地诱发这种状态。我大学时用过二三十次裸盖菇素，所以很清楚这种体验应该是什么样。带双耳节拍的护目镜会制造出一种奇怪的状态，我感觉与环境失去了联系。几分钟后身体完全瘫软，大脑开始出现光幻视。大约 15 分钟后，胃通常会咕噜作响，很像致幻剂之旅常伴随的消化不良。有意思的是，这类机器被宣传为脑波同步设备，但相关文献表明视觉成分其实没什么作用；而单独的听觉同步对我来说效果也不明显，难以排除安慰剂效应。iPhone 上有个叫 Lumenate 的应用利用 LED 闪光，似乎也有效，虽然不如多 LED 护目镜强，但对好奇的人来说是很好的入门。
brandall10查看英文原文
FWIW, I used to use a light and sound machine (Mindplace Procyon) and was able to induce these states with minimal effort. And I had a couple dozen experiences w/ psilocybin in my college years, so I'm well versed in what they should be like. The goggles w/ binaural beats create some weird sort of state where I don't feel any connection to my environment. After only a couple minutes my body turns to total mush and my brain comes alive with phosphene visuals. By about 15 minutes in, my stomach usually gurgles a bit, not unlike the indigestion that often accompanies psychedelic trips. Interestingly enough, these machines are marketed as brainwave entrainment, but the literature on that says the visual component doesn't really have much impact. Yet auditory entrainment on its own doesn't seem to do much for me either, or at least, not convincing enough beyond placebo. There is an app for the iPhone called Lumenate that uses the LED flash and it seems to work, though it's not as strong for me as the multi-LED goggles I used to use. Still, it's a great gateway for those who are curious.
质疑质疑该领域概念定义模糊，讨论者鱼龙混杂，难以分辨理性与玄学
这个评论区真的很奇怪。分享体验的人似乎和典型的 HN 用户很不一样，我几乎无法与他们产生共鸣，也难以理解他们在说什么。大多数概念的定义都很模糊——就连这篇文章也只是把 breathwork 定义为“不间歇的循环呼吸，配合逐渐富有感染力的音乐”。所以……就是加快呼吸同时播放越来越激烈的音乐？我的一个困扰是，任何与这类话题相关的内容似乎都会吸引理性观察者、致幻剂使用者和宗教人士（新旧皆有）的奇特混合，不先入行很难分辨谁是谁。
tavavex查看英文原文
This is a really strange comment section. The average person sharing their experiences seems very unlike the average HN user. I feel like I can barely relate to those people, and understanding what they're saying is nigh impossible. The definitions of most things are really vague - even the article of this thread only defines breathwork as "cyclic breathing without pausing, accompanied by progressively evocative music". So... faster breathing while intensifying music is playing? One issue for me is how anything connected to these topics seems to attract a healthy mix of rational observation, psychedelic users and religious people (old and new). Deciphering which is which is really difficult without already having a foot in the door on this topic.
亲历亲历者称呼吸练习配合音乐能自发产生富有想象力的想法，并分享自创的辅助技巧
我一直都在这样做：放音乐并做呼吸练习。我最有想象力的一些想法，都是在呼吸练习进行 15 分钟后自动涌现的。我用一种别人不用的技巧，最初是模仿拳击手被击中腹部的方式。后来我找到了一种更聪明、更安全的模仿方法。意识改变状态在呼吸练习 10-15 分钟后开始。我还用唾液涂头皮来清除头发中的睾酮（灵感来自猫），这能止住雄激素性脱发。做这个时我会严重头晕，因此我戒掉了包括酒精在内的所有改变心智的物质——运动引起的头晕好多了。
emporas查看英文原文
I have done this since forever. Put music on and doing breathwork. Some of the most imaginative ideas I have ever had, start to be generated by themselves 15 minutes in the breathwork. I use a technique no else uses, and at the start I was trying to emulate fighters being hit in the stomach. It had occured to me that fighters have generally more triangular upper bodies than other types of athletes. It turns out, that organs in the belly aggregate fat around them, and being hit in the stomach discombobulates the fat particles. I found a more intelligent way to emulate that, and less dangerous. Altered state of consciousness start after 10-15 minutes of breathwork, when I put saliva on my scalp to clean the testosterone from the hair. That one was inspired by cats. The male scalp excretes lots of testosterone which cannot be removed with just shampoo. This also fixes androgenetic alopecia (it does not get reversed, but stops happening). I get seriously dizzy when I do that, that's why I have given up on all mind altering substances including alcohol. Getting dizzy from exercise is so much better. There are 2-3 more exercises I do complementary to that. The breath work also is not breath work, it is something similar.
亲历从业者自荐提供免费的致幻剂呼吸练习体验
我运营一个名为 BioMythic.com 的致幻剂呼吸练习小组，我们与 YC 创始人和团队以及 Bombas 等独角兽公司合作。如果这里有人感兴趣，我们很乐意为创始人提供一次免费的线上体验，因为我们的工作一直是无偿赠予的。
ada1981查看英文原文
I run a psychedelic breath work group called BioMythic.com and we've worked with YC founders and teams and other Unicorn's like Bombas. Happy to offer a free virtual session for founders if there is interest here, as our work is always gifted.
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