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古王国时期埃及人的全基因组祖先分析
Whole-genome ancestry of an Old Kingdom Egyptian
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这篇论文对一具古王国时期（约公元前 2200 年前后）埃及人的遗骸进行了全基因组测序，是迄今最早的古埃及人基因组数据之一。结果显示其遗传亲缘关系接近新石器时代至青铜时代安纳托利亚和黎凡特地区的祖先成分，支持古埃及人群与美索不达米亚方向存在人口流动与混合的观点。
HN 关注点：古埃及人基因组数据极为稀缺，而结论触及'埃及人是否从美索不达米亚迁来'这一敏感的历史与政治议题，引发 HN 读者对科学结论与民族叙事冲突的讨论。
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这几条评论里：支持 1 质疑 1 补充 2
补充论文结论触及埃及民族叙事，埃及政府将考古发现政治化，因此埃及学者缺席此类研究
有两点让我觉得有意思：一是关于古埃及最重要的发现中几乎看不到埃及考古学家的身影；二是论文得出古埃及人确实是从美索不达米亚迁入埃及的强结论。埃及人不喜欢'他们是从别处迁来的'这种说法，他们主张自己拥有独特、连续的历史和与土地的联系，文明独立于美索不达米亚、小亚细亚、欧洲和非洲。这也解释了为什么科学论文中很少见到埃及学者——对埃及政府而言这不只是历史科学问题，更是现实政治问题：论文结论必须符合文物部的叙事，否则发布者会被以危害国家罪起诉。
eddythompson80查看英文原文
I'll have to bookmark it for later to spend more time than just skimming, but I find 2 things interesting. The lack of any Egyptian archeologists on most interesting and significant findings about Ancient Egypt is one. The other is the seemingly strong conclusion that Ancient Egyptians did in fact move to Egypt from Mesopotamian which is pretty cool. Egyptians don't like the notion that "they moved there from somewhere". They claim their own unique, uninterrupted, history and connection to the land as well as their civilizational independence from Mesopotamian, Asia Minor, Europe, and Africa. It's also the same you rarely find Egyptian archeologists/scholars on scientific papers. While this might be a matter of ancient history and science to everyone, it's a matter of current day politics for Egyptians and especially the Egyptian government. The "findings" of the paper has to agree with the narrative built and proposed by the ministry of antiquities or they will literally charge whoever publishes it with a national crime.
质疑质疑样本的社会阶层归属，单个个体未必能代表整个古埃及人群
我们怎么知道这个人属于上层阶级，还是来自外地的流动劳工？论文引用的'陶罐葬'与上层阶级相关的说法也存疑——陶罐葬通常与穷人联系在一起。用骨骼去推断'人群'的问题在于，如果对样本身份和社会人口结构不够谨慎，得出的往往只是普通民众的情况，而非统治阶层少数精英的面貌。
PKop查看英文原文
How do we even know this person was upper class or some itinerant migrant worker that came from somewhere else? Even the citation claiming the burial method was associated with upper class raises doubts: following the link mentions "pot burial" which has commonly been associated with the poor. The problem with identifying bones with "population" is it often says what the common man was like but not the minority elite that ruled and had power if one isn't careful about who they think they're identifying or the demographic structure of society in these ancient cultures.
支持结论符合已知史料，古埃及与安纳托利亚/黎凡特的交流早有记载，并不意外
文章说他的遗传亲缘关系与新石器时代和青铜时代出现在安纳托利亚和黎凡特的祖先相似。作为外行，我觉得这并不特别令人震惊。书面史料早已表明，青铜时代埃及与这些地区之间存在大量交流和人员往来，一些文化交流甚至可追溯到新石器时代。这也与圣经叙事中人们往返埃及的记载相符。
rietta查看英文原文
The article states that 'his genetic affinity is similar to the ancestry appearing in Anatolia and the Levant during the Neolithic and Bronze Age.' As a layperson, I don't think we would find this particularly shocking. It's well known from written sources that there was significant communication and movement between Egypt and those areas during the broader Bronze Age, even extending back into the Neolithic for some cultural exchanges. This even aligns with biblical narratives that describe individuals and families traveling to and from Egypt for periods of time.
补充推测当时地理环境更利于区域间自由迁徙
能不能把它看作一整块大陆？也许 5000 年前西奈半岛陆地更多、海洋更少——红海没现在这么大，苏伊士湾和亚喀巴湾当时可能是陆地。那样的话，人们向各个方向自由迁徙就不难想象了。
hbarka查看英文原文
Can’t we think of it as just one large land mass? Maybe 5000 years ago the Sinai peninsula was more land, less sea—the Red Sea not as big, and the Gulf of Suez and the Gulf of Aqaba as we know it now was land mass. Then it wouldn’t be hard to imagine freedom of travel in all kinds of directions.
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