神经科学与心理学2019ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
如何在不使用药物的情况下提高人脑中的血清素水平(2007)
How to increase serotonin in the human brain without drugs (2007)
进阶 · 约 30 分钟读完前置知识:神经递质基础、血清素/5-HT 系统、抑郁症基础
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这篇 2007 年的综述讨论如何在不使用药物的情况下提高人脑血清素水平,并回顾光照、运动、色氨酸补充等非药物途径的相关证据。评论区则质疑“提升血清素就能治疗抑郁”的简化说法,并争论运动对抑郁症究竟有多大疗效。
HN 关注点:血清素与抑郁的关系,以及运动等非药物干预到底有没有可靠证据支持。
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这几条评论里:质疑 2 亲历 2
质疑运动并非 NICE 推荐的抑郁症治疗,只可能帮助亚临床或轻中度症状,证据不支持其治疗作用。
这个帖子里有人在重复“运动能治疗抑郁”的迷思,但现有证据显示它很可能不能。文章链接的是旧版 NICE 指南,新版在这里。要注意,NICE 并不是把运动当作抑郁症治疗,而是说它可能帮助有亚临床症状的人——有一两个抑郁症状,但不是完整综合征。指南对持续性阈下抑郁症状或轻中度抑郁的低强度心理社会干预包括:基于 CBT 的自助、计算机化 CBT、结构化团体体育活动项目。NICE 不推荐运动作为抑郁症治疗,因为证据显示它无效;这不是像文章作者暗示的那样“还没有足够好的证据”。
DanBC查看英文原文
People in this thread are repeating the myth that exercise is a treatment for depression, when all the evidence we have shows that it probably isn't. The article links to an old version of the NICE guidance. The new version of that is here: https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/cg90 It's important to note that exercise isn't being touted as a treatment for depression, but as something that may help people with sub-clinical symptoms. They have one or two symptoms of depression, but not the whole package. > Low-intensity psychosocial interventions > For people with persistent subthreshold depressive symptoms or mild to moderate depression, consider offering one or more of the following interventions, guided by the person's preference: > individual guided self-help based on the principles of cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT) > computerised cognitive behavioural therapy (CCBT)[4] > a structured group physical activity programme. NICE does not recommend exercise as a treatment for depression. This is because the evidence we have shows it does not work. It's not, as the author of the submitted article suggests, that we don't yet have good enough evidence.
质疑血清素升高可能让人麻木,抗抑郁机制更像是以一组症状替换另一组,并非根治。
很多人(包括医生)都认定血清素让人快乐,因此是抑郁症的解决办法。这只对了一半,而且不是大多数人以为的那种对法。血清素水平高会让人麻木。但比起抑郁,这可能是两害相权取其轻,所以它作为一种治疗机制流行起来。它不是解决方案,只是用一组症状替换另一组症状,掩盖了 underlying problem。
eiriklv查看英文原文
So many people (including doctors) seem to be set on the idea that serotonin makes you happy and therefore is the solution to depression. This is only half true, and not in the way that most think. Serotonin (if high) makes you numb [1]. But that might be the lesser of two evils when it comes to depression [2], which is why it’s become popular as a mechanism to treat it. It not a solution, it’s just masking the underlying problem by replacing one set of symptoms with another. [1] - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2989833/ [2] - https://www.health.harvard.edu/depression/is-your-antidepressant-making-life-a-little-too-blah
亲历列举冥想、光照、运动、色氨酸等非药物方法,并亲证户外光照和运动对情绪有效。
这篇关于抑郁和情绪的非药物方法综述很有意思:改变思维(冥想)、暴露于明亮光线(户外)、运动、空腹补充色氨酸以提高吸收、牛奶中的 α-乳白蛋白(但不算很好的选择)。我可以亲证光照和运动这两条:在烈日下到户外跑步最能提升我的情绪。
rubicon33查看英文原文
Interesting review of non-drug approaches to depression and mood: - Alterations in thought (meditation) - Exposure to bright light (outdoors) - Exercise - tryptophan supplementation taken WITHOUT food for greater uptake - α-Lactalbumin found in Milk but not really a great option Definitely can speak to the exposure to light, and exercise ones. Nothing lifts my mood more than going for a run outside, in the heat of the sun.
亲历亲历季节性抑郁,举重对情绪和多类症状的帮助远大于其他非药物方法。
我被诊断为季节性抑郁,而举重迄今是对我最有效的治疗。冥想、光照疗法、维生素/促智剂各自都不错,能去掉一些症状,但我不会说抑郁就不在了。举重则非常惊人:大重量训练后我感觉极好,尤其是硬拉和卧推会带来一种欣快感。健身房改善了我的食欲、社交精力、组织性、做爱好的动力、工作专注、焦虑,几乎一切。我强烈推荐举重。
PascLeRasc查看英文原文
I have a seasonal depression diagnosis and lifting weights has been by far the best treatment for me. Meditation, light therapy, and vitamins/nootropics are all good on their own, they each sort of take away some of the symptoms, but I wouldn't say the depression isn't still there. But weightlifting is incredible. I feel amazing after a heavy session - deadlifting and benching especially give me a kind of euphoria. Gym fixes my lack of appetite, lack of social energy, disorganization, lack of motivation to work on my hobbies, work focus, anxiety, everything. I can't recommend lifting enough.
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